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Report Shows Facebook Let Corporate Partners Read Users' Private Messages

GoWilkes

Posted 3:26 am, 12/22/2018

I double checked, Pollock, and yes, the Instagram app is the same way:



If you installed it manually then you were given a notification where it requested access to read your files, and you had to say "Yes" before it would install. But if it came pre-installed on your phone then they were able to bypass giving you that notification.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 and Melissa has an iPhone 8, and Facebook, Messenger, and Instagram all came pre-installed.

According to the article, the only way to protect your information is to delete all of the apps from your phone, and permanently delete your accounts with Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, and WhatsApp. They will each encourage you to simply deactivate your account so that you can return later, but then they will retain all of your private information (which they can then sell or give access to other companies).

antithesis

Posted 2:13 pm, 12/21/2018

But my question is ... What about Instagram?? Does FB own that app? Are you saying if I have Instagram then FB has been listening and receiving all my information still?


It does look like Facebook owns both Instagram and WhatsApp:

Pollock

Posted 9:11 am, 12/21/2018

GoWilkes (view profile)
Posted 9:49 pm, 12/20/2018

FWIW, hangsleft, Facebook is also under investigation because, if you have any of their apps on your phone, then they can read anything that happens on your phone. Even if you don't use the apps or have logged in to them:

https://www.forbes.c...8bde1625db

The legality of it is questionable. It's technically an opt-in program, but if their apps came pre-installed on your phone then you would have opted-in without realizing it when you first set up the phone.

But this means that, unless you have manually uninstalled the Facebook app, the Messenger app, and the Instagram app from your phone, then Facebook is reading your texts and listening to your calls. And based on the article in the first post, they're likely sharing this content with other corporations.

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This is nothing new, I read about these practices a couple of years ago which is why I don't have FB app or Messenger app installed on my phone. I often have unread messages and friends give me crap about not responding to their messages but I'm with Hangs, if you need to talk to me then text! Unless I don't want you to have my phone number, then you can wait a month or two until I randomly sign in on a computer to read messages.

But my question is ... What about Instagram?? Does FB own that app? Are you saying if I have Instagram then FB has been listening and receiving all my information still?

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 8:36 am, 12/21/2018

You have a talent for adding nothing

Redskins44Red4

Posted 8:09 am, 12/21/2018

Keep messages clean and try wont have to read them or better yet don't do social media.

empowers

Posted 7:38 am, 12/21/2018

My nephew called it 'Farcebook.'

GoWilkes

Posted 9:49 pm, 12/20/2018

Currently I have 7 unread messages on FB. I don't open them. If you want to contact me and we are that close, then text me.

FWIW, hangsleft, Facebook is also under investigation because, if you have any of their apps on your phone, then they can read anything that happens on your phone. Even if you don't use the apps or have logged in to them:


The legality of it is questionable. It's technically an opt-in program, but if their apps came pre-installed on your phone then you would have opted-in without realizing it when you first set up the phone.

But this means that, unless you have manually uninstalled the Facebook app, the Messenger app, and the Instagram app from your phone, then Facebook is reading your texts and listening to your calls. And based on the article in the first post, they're likely sharing this content with other corporations.

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This is due to FB shutting him down/his business due to his conservative views

this n that, I'm not sure that I understand this one. He has a coffee business, right?


I've never believed in censorship (as long as it doesn't violate the site's Terms & Conditions or laws), but I'm not sure how shutting down his Facebook page would have had any impact on his coffee business.

I also read that he had spent $315,000 with Facebook to promote his political Facebook page for "Right Wing News", which Facebook shut down without warning when they changed their rules to prevent anything they considered to be "fake news":


Now that amazes me... he gave them over $300,000 to promote a page on their own site? When he apparently didn't make any money off of the page in return?

So, how do I get people to pay me to promote pages on here like that? Imagine if I charged the author of a thread $0.09 every time someone reads it! That's basically what Facebook did.

It is definitely true that Facebook pushes (and almost requires) businesses to pay for their followers to see their posts. I rarely use Facebook myself, but yesterday I changed the cover photo on the GoWilkes fan page to a "Merry Christmas" image. We have about 4,000 followers on that page, and it's been just under 24 hours since I changed it. I just looked, and it has been seen by a whopping 6 people. If I want more of my followers to see it, I have to pay.

jack rip her

Posted 4:47 pm, 12/20/2018

I hope they dont brown or black list me. I wouldn't be able to find new concubines.

this n that

Posted 4:26 pm, 12/20/2018

I've never been on fake book. But this is happening now. I hope this is ok to put here.
MaineCoon says:
This is from Conservative Treehouse comments.
There's also a video of Kilfage that some are saying will finish off fake book. Watch from the five minute mark for the good stuff.

Brian Kilfage has a website linked below called fight4freespeech.com where you can sign the petition which he is ultimately taking to the WH and pressing for congress to investigation Facebook. This is due to FB shutting him down/his business due to his conservative views. He had over 10MM followers and gave FB over $300M in FB ad revenue for his veteran coffee business. His vet employees lost their jobs.

Hope you will take a minute to sign his petition!

https://www.fight4fr...n?splash=1

hangsleft

Posted 2:03 pm, 12/20/2018

Currently I have 7 unread messages on FB. I don't open them. If you want to contact me and we are that close, then text me.

MyGhost

Posted 1:58 pm, 12/20/2018

If they’ve been caught doing this just imagine what they have been getting away with.

Robeson

Posted 1:56 pm, 12/20/2018

Go~~~I too have warned these young people about telling their every detail on Facebook. They have

laughed at me......for being ole and wise, I guess.

kenc

Posted 8:57 pm, 12/19/2018

I've been hearing about this on TV, I don't have many friends on face book, but they're not satisfied, they keep bugging me to add more. I have no intention of doing that, nor discussing things I don't want the world to know.

Jimbojolly

Posted 8:30 pm, 12/19/2018

That is rather astounding. I never noticed it, but I'm lazy about some of the fine print on "terms" when they go on for pages.
I imagine this will make a dent in Facebook's traffic, but other folks don't seem to mind being on display.

GoWilkes

Posted 7:55 pm, 12/19/2018


Outrage After Report Shows Facebook Let Corporate Partners Read Users' Private Messages


...a bombshell New York Times report late Tuesday detailed a "special arrangement" the social media behemoth had with tech corporations that gave them access to users' data and private messages without consent.


"An incredibly ****ing indictment of Facebook, every single paragraph," Trevor Timm, executive director of the Freedom of the Press Foundation, wrote of the Times report, which is the latest in a long line of recent revelations about Facebook's intrusiveâ€"and possibly illegalâ€"data practices.


https://www.commondr...-corporate

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Here is the original report from the New York Times:


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For the record, though, this has always been in their privacy policy. I've been warning people for years, but nobody listens

Their privacy policy states that anything you submit to Facebook becomes their property, which includes photos and anything you send by Direct Message (DM). Once you've posted it there, it's no longer yours and they can use it in any way they like.

It's my understanding that this is the difference between "Private Message" and "Direct Message". From a conversation with my attorney when I first set up Private Messages (around 2004, I think?), a Private Message is legally defined as a message that is between you and the recipient, and the provider has no right to review it without permission. A Direct Message, however, can be read by the provider and moderated as necessary.

GoNC has always had unreviewed, unmoderated Private Messages. We do have a few filters in place for new users that match patterns that appear to be spam, scams, or viruses, but that's all.

The article above refers to Facebook's "Private Messages", but I believe that they are termed as "Direct Messages" in the Privacy Policy. Which means that they've always had the right to read, edit, and sell your messages. But why anyone would agree to that is beyond me

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